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A 5G with V cup

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:48 am
by bigbandbone
Does anyone make a small shank about the same size as a 5G but with a V cup?

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:59 am
by norbie2018

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:15 am
by Kingfan
Doug Elliott might be able to put one together for you.

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:22 am
by Doug Elliott
I have several choices that fit that description. See my LT series. http://dougelliottmouthpieces.com/tenortrb.html

I also stock a few cup half-sizes that aren't listed there. If you want a recommendation I'd want to know more specifics than just "small shank"... the particular horn and what you're using it for.

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:31 pm
by Posaunus
A few that I can think of:
• Benge Marcellus
• Curry 5D
• Giardinelli Symph-T
• Lindberg 4CL
• Stork 5

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:47 pm
by BGuttman
Posaunus wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:31 pm A few that I can think of:
• Benge Marcellus
• Curry 5D
• Giardinelli Symph-T
• Lindberg 4CL
• Stork 5
Also the Conn Remington (if you can find one -- they shipped with the Connstellation models).

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:49 pm
by Posaunus
Oops - missed the small-shank part of your request! My references were all large shank. :weep:

For small shank, you're more limited in this relatively large (5G) size range. Perhaps:
• Curry 5M
• Stork 5
• Wick 5BS (somewhat V-shaped)

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:40 pm
by harrisonreed
The 4CL is not really all that V shaped. The 2CL sorta is, but it's a lot bigger, and has the largest throat diameter you're likely to see. The outer shape doesn't match the cup inside.

None of the small shank CL pieces have a V cup.

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:17 am
by Mikebmiller
Hammond 10 M. Nice piece and you can get from Dillon for $110.

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:43 am
by NordicTrombone
Mikebmiller wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:17 am Hammond 10 M. Nice piece and you can get from Dillon for $110.
The 12M is the 5G equivalent :)

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:01 pm
by bigbandbone
norbie2018 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:59 am Try a stork 5
https://storkcustom.com/trombone-mouthpieces/
Which back bore would you suggest. Standard or symphony?

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:26 pm
by norbie2018
bigbandbone wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:01 pm
norbie2018 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:59 am Try a stork 5
https://storkcustom.com/trombone-mouthpieces/
Which back bore would you suggest. Standard or symphony?
I played the 4 and 4s and preferred the s due to the larger back bore. Your mileage may vary.

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:40 pm
by bigbandbone
norbie2018 wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:26 pm
bigbandbone wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:01 pm Which back bore would you suggest. Standard or symphony?
I played the 4 and 4s and preferred the s due to the larger back bore. Your mileage may vary.
Cool. Thanks! I'll take a chance on the s. I'm very new to low notes. Thanks for the help!

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:57 am
by etbone
In the long run, Doug, will save you time and money. Because his parts are resalable. AND he knows his stuff.

On Stork,the type blank makes a bigger difference, than the back bore. Light and heavy. (heavy is about the same weight as standard Bach) Light is super responsive. I use both (1.5BT,1.5BS light)

Both backbores are bigger, than Bach 5g (small shank)

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:36 am
by norbie2018
Unless they've changed things recently, the heavy weight stork is closer to a mega tone mp, not the standard Bach blank.

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:47 pm
by Grahambone
I am little biased, but I think a Marcinkiewicz 7G is a great choice. Slightly shallower than a 5G with our V cup shape. We also make and stock the 7G-S with a more open backbore.

Graham Middleton

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:24 am
by Mikebmiller
NordicTrombone wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:43 am
Mikebmiller wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:17 am Hammond 10 M. Nice piece and you can get from Dillon for $110.
The 12M is the 5G equivalent :)
My bad. I do love my 10 ML and 10M though.

Re: A 5G with V cup

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:43 am
by dukesboneman
I know you said you were looking for a small shank however.....
I bought a Wessex 4Y mouthpiece a while ago.
I could not get it to work for me. Fast forward a year. Now it sounds great, maybe I`m doing more large bore playing but it`s wonderful.
It`s about a 5G-ish rim with a very deep V shaped cup in Gold plate