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Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:54 am
by Talpo64
Hi
Rn I'm using a Hetman number 11 rotor oil for my valve and because they no longer exist I need to find an alternative.
Any recommended brands?
Thanks.
P.S. Do they also have a valve links lubricant?
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:11 am
by Burgerbob
Ultra Pure
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:22 pm
by hornbuilder
Plus 1 for Ultra Pure
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:20 pm
by HornboneandVocals
I use monster oil purely for the Amazon prime convenience, works as good as any others in my experience. They’ve got different weights: Light, heavy, and linkage.
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:35 pm
by Gfunk
Also +1 ultra pure. It’s what I transitioned to from Hetmans
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:34 am
by vetsurginc
Ultra Pure.
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:53 pm
by pfrancis
If looking for a like for like J. Meinlschmidt offers an almost identical product lineup. Available to techs through Allied Supply and for sale elsewhere as well. Not quite as extensive a lineup but comprehensive none the less.
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:18 pm
by piezer
Related question: When switching to the new oil do I need to completely clean the valves or can I use the new oil on top the old?
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:51 pm
by NorthWoodsEngineer
piezer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:18 pm
Related question: When switching to the new oil do I need to completely clean the valves or can I use the new oil on top the old?
It's probably a good idea - you don't need to go crazy, but taking it apart and wiping it all down with some water and a rag would be fine.
I'm running low on my Hetman #11 myself. To those recommending the Ultra Pure, there seem to be a couple options. Any opinions on which you prefer? And why?
On a related note, I have J. Meinlschmidt linkage oil and their tuning slide gel #7 and I absolutely love it! It seals incredibly and is very long lasting. I noticed a big sealing difference in my horn after switching. Tempted to try out their rotor oil once the time comes.
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:14 am
by baBposaune
J. Meinlschmidt reverse engineered the Hetman products and they are identical. I switched to "JM" lubricants and I'm very happy with the results, just like I was with the Hetman.
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:30 am
by harrisonreed
NorthWoodsEngineer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:51 pm
piezer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:18 pm
Related question: When switching to the new oil do I need to completely clean the valves or can I use the new oil on top the old?
It's probably a good idea - you don't need to go crazy, but taking it apart and wiping it all down with some water and a rag would be fine.
I'm running low on my Hetman #11 myself. To those recommending the Ultra Pure, there seem to be a couple options. Any opinions on which you prefer? And why?
On a related note, I have J. Meinlschmidt linkage oil and their tuning slide gel #7 and I absolutely love it! It seals incredibly and is very long lasting. I noticed a big sealing difference in my horn after switching. Tempted to try out their rotor oil once the time comes.
I have UP regular and light, and the bearing oil.
FWIW, Hetman's would eventually become a thick yellow crud, but UP does not seem to do that.
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:49 pm
by Posaunus
FWIW, Hetman's would eventually become a thick yellow crud, but UP does not seem to do that.
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Harry,
Which Hetman's oil becomes thick & yellow? (Valve, rotor, linkage, ... ?) I haven't been this happen (yet).
When (if) I do need new oil (Ultra Pure, J Meinlschmidt, ... ?) what is the best place to purchase?
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 2:59 pm
by bitbckt
Ultra Pure sells direct to consumer on their website. Unless you’re in a hurry, buying from them seems best to me.
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:08 pm
by harrisonreed
Posaunus wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:49 pm
FWIW, Hetman's would eventually become a thick yellow crud, but UP does not seem to do that.
Harry,
Which Hetman's oil becomes thick & yellow? (Valve, rotor, linkage, ... ?) I haven't been this happen (yet).
When (if) I do need new oil (Ultra Pure, J Meinlschmidt, ... ?) what is the best place to purchase?
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11 and 13, combined with the slide grease from Hetman. This happened after my tubes were about 1/3 full, so the oil was old at that point. But I'd expect it to never do that.
Re: Hetman Alternatives
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:05 pm
by Blabberbucket
As baBposaunen said Meinlschmidt oils are, to the best of my understanding, direct duplicates of the Hetman products.