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Two notes, one voice | Anna-Maria Hefele | TEDxGenova

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:06 pm
by AndrewMeronek
Maybe a nice intro video for someone looking for a good educational resource. Definitely applicable to brass playing.


Re: Two notes, one voice | Anna-Maria Hefele | TEDxGenova

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:40 am
by HermanGerman
Ray Anderson singing and tromboning "Wine":
... Pay special attention to the out chorus
He is a genius..
Howard Johnson (tuba) did some multiphonic singing, too

Re: Two notes, one voice | Anna-Maria Hefele | TEDxGenova

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:04 am
by baileyman
Everyone should hear Sam Burtis do this on his horn. Nuts!

Re: Two notes, one voice | Anna-Maria Hefele | TEDxGenova

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:23 am
by HermanGerman
Here the master of multiphonics and one of the most important trombonists ever:



I will never forget the moment I heard him the first time in my early youth.
Albert played a KIng 3B Silver Sonic and a Giardinelli 3D.

Re: Two notes, one voice | Anna-Maria Hefele | TEDxGenova

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:28 am
by AndrewMeronek
To be clear: what Anna-Maria doing in the OP is not like trombone multiphonics.

Re: Two notes, one voice | Anna-Maria Hefele | TEDxGenova

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:48 am
by harrisonreed
Vocal multiphonics are useful if you want to learn to emphasize different overtones on the trombone using your tongue. Same mechanism, but without singing on trombone.

Trombone multiphonics are a completely different set of skills, not really related to what she is doing in the video.

Honestly the best singers are doing throat overtones like in the video without realizing it.

Re: Two notes, one voice | Anna-Maria Hefele | TEDxGenova

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:11 am
by Wilktone
Yeah, she's awesome.
AndrewMeronek wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:28 am To be clear: what Anna-Maria doing in the OP is not like trombone multiphonics.
But they can be used along with multiphonics. I'm not an expert in harmonic singing, but I have taught myself the basics of it. Bringing out the overtones with your voice like that is increased by using a certain type of throat constriction which closes off your oral cavity more than typical singing (think the throat singers of Tuva, if you've heard them before). By employing a similar technique while doing multiphonics I'm able to get 4 pitches to sound - The trombone pitch, the fundamental pitch I'm singing, the resulting 3rd tone from the interaction of those first two pitches, and the harmonic created through harmonic singing.

I suspect that what many of the masters of multiphonics, like Albert Mangelsdorff, do is something similar.

Re: Two notes, one voice | Anna-Maria Hefele | TEDxGenova

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:50 pm
by AndrewMeronek
Wilktone wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:11 am But they can be used along with multiphonics. I'm not an expert in harmonic singing, but I have taught myself the basics of it. Bringing out the overtones with your voice like that is increased by using a certain type of throat constriction which closes off your oral cavity more than typical singing (think the throat singers of Tuva, if you've heard them before). By employing a similar technique while doing multiphonics I'm able to get 4 pitches to sound - The trombone pitch, the fundamental pitch I'm singing, the resulting 3rd tone from the interaction of those first two pitches, and the harmonic created through harmonic singing.

I suspect that what many of the masters of multiphonics, like Albert Mangelsdorff, do is something similar.
Yup, two different tools that can be used with each other. :cool: