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I'm still looking for a Remington shank mouthpiece for my 72H. I had ordered one from a well known maker but after many production delays and problems he refunded my payment.
So, I'd like something 1 1/2 G in size, but with a V cup. What mouthpiece Makers should I be looking at?
I cannot find the last thread I started about it!
So, I'd like something 1 1/2 G in size, but with a V cup. What mouthpiece Makers should I be looking at?
I cannot find the last thread I started about it!
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Would stork be an option?
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Older (long shank) Schilke mouthpieces will fit your Conn. The 58 is about 11/2 G size. Many of us like the slightly larger 59.
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I still don't even fully understand what a V cup is haha
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"V-cup" mouthpiece have more funnel-shaped (conical) interiors than mouthpieces which are more rounded (cup-shaped or basin-shaped) at the bottom of the interior. Easiest to see in cross-section drawings.
The differences are often subtle – as may be the effects of the interior mouthpiece shape.
For more detail, see:
https://hub.yamaha.com/guide-to-brass-m ... -and-rims/
https://storkcustom.com/the-basics-of-r ... cup-shape/
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I know Doug makes that particular type of shank ("Conn") and has also done V shaped pieces in the past. He'd be my go-to for this type of thing because I'd want to A/B test something like that against a different shape cup.
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What you might do is get the V cup Ferguson 1.5 and a DE Remington shank. Then, send them to Bob Reeves do they can cut the shank and thread the Ferguson throat to take the DE shank.
I think Griego also makes V cup bass bone pieces (Taylor? Pagano?) You could do the same thing with
I think Griego also makes V cup bass bone pieces (Taylor? Pagano?) You could do the same thing with
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Don't even need to make it that complicated. Reeves does the "sleeves" thing so they can actually convert any Morse taper piece to a Remington shank for a fairly nominal fee.harrisonreed wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:05 pm What you might do is get the V cup Ferguson 1.5 and a DE Remington shank. Then, send them to Bob Reeves do they can cut the shank and thread the Ferguson throat to take the DE shank.
It's like $100ish I think for the sleeve and the work.
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I think it costs around $55 to cut and thread. I guess it depends on how big a gap or step the sleeve makes. Probably negligible!
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My cups are more V than most. If you really want a truly V cup I can do it as a custom, I've done it before. But I'll tell you now it sounds like a French horn.
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I like the Ferguson V, and it can be had with a Brown & Sharp taper, (that's Remington, right??) . It's 1 1/2g-ish in size, but gets a clearer sound with maybe more pronounced articulation. The Ferguson L is a 1 1/4g piece with similar characteristics, but definitely bigger. It's my preferred bass piece at the moment.
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I had Stork make me a couple BT1.5s with Remington shanks once. They only took a couple weeks to arrive and, of course, were perfectly done.
I also have an older Schilke 59 from the era when the Remington shank was the standard on all of their mouthpieces. I haven't used it for years. PM me if you'd like to buy it, it's in great shape. .