Laskey at Shirespalooza

[Indiebass1993]

Hey all,

I'm wondering if anybody that attended the Shirespalooza was able to try any of the Laskey mouthpieces there (it looked like it may have only been the Alessi series if there were any to try)? Eagerly awaiting their trombone mouthpieces in general, whenever they release, but it would be nice to see for those that potentially tried them what they thought of them.

Thanks!

[Bach5G]

Alessi-Laskey mpcs very close I am told. The regular line is too.

[harrisonreed]

I wonder just how different the Laskey stuff will be from the Griego lineup? How much is someone that far into their career going to change up their most fundamental piece of gear?

I bet the was some improvement towards efficiency. It'll be interesting to try one.

[Bach5G]

Alessi Black, Alessi Griego, Alessi Laskey (Alessi Pickett?)

Someone will be posting comparisons I’m sure.

[harrisonreed]

Yeah, love the Alessi designs but the rim has too much metal, spread over too flat of a surface for me. That's pretty much guaranteed to have not changed though.

[Druidman]

Anybody been able to try the Alessi series at Midwest? Nothing on Laskey's website yet despite the release.

[Arvopart17]

Windy City has some of the new Alessi series for sale on reverb: https://reverb.com/item/64237427-laskey ... t=64237427

There’s a sizing chart there too.

[Druidman]

Interesting. I'll be curious to see the alto/bass pieces. Thanks!

[Kdanielsen]

Anyone have a report from Midwest on the Laskey Alessi stuff?

[Druidman]

I'll paste the specs below in the following format: Model, Rim ID, RIM OD, Throat ID, Backbore ID, and cup depth. Found this info on Reverb of all places, but I thought they were releasing a much larger line of Alessi pieces (alto and bass as well). Nothing yet on the Laskey website about anything trombone.

55 Solo, 1.004, 1.541, .282, .438, Mid-Shallow
55 Symph, 1.004, 1.541, .282, .438, Mid-Deep
60 Solo, 1.024, 1.562, .282, .438, Mid-Shallow
60 Symph, 1.024, 1.562, .282, .438, Mid-Deep
67 Solo, 1.051, 1.592, .282, .438, Mid-Shallow
67 Symph, 1.051, 1.592, .282, .438, Mid-Deep

[Kdanielsen]

I'll paste the specs below in the following format: Model, Rim ID, RIM OD, Throat ID, Backbore ID, and cup depth. Found this info on Reverb of all places, but I thought they were releasing a much larger line of Alessi pieces (alto and bass as well). Nothing yet on the Laskey website about anything trombone.

55 Solo, 1.004, 1.541, .282, .438, Mid-Shallow
55 Symph, 1.004, 1.541, .282, .438, Mid-Deep
60 Solo, 1.024, 1.562, .282, .438, Mid-Shallow
60 Symph, 1.024, 1.562, .282, .438, Mid-Deep
67 Solo, 1.051, 1.592, .282, .438, Mid-Shallow
67 Symph, 1.051, 1.592, .282, .438, Mid-Deep

Yes, I saw that. Anyone actually try them?

[tbonesullivan]

I wonder how they are measuring the mouthpiece rims, or how the rims compare to the regular Laskey rim. The Laskey Mouthpieces most are familiar with in the tenor world are the 57 and 59, and this series doesn't seem to have something for a 5G type mouthpiece.

[BGuttman]

Looks like the model number is the diameter in millimeters and tenths with the first digit removed: 55 is 25.5, 60 is 26.0, and 67 is 26.7. So the Bach equivalents are 6.5 for the 55, 4 for the 60, and around 2 for the 67.

[Druidman]

I would imagine that the rims are going to be thicker than the traditional laskey rims. I haven't put my face on the Alessi series, but if they're similar to the former Griego Alessi rims, they will be on the thick side

[Kdanielsen]

I would imagine that the rims are going to be thicker than the traditional laskey rims. I haven't put my face on the Alessi series, but if they're similar to the former Griego Alessi rims, they will be on the thick side

Griego Alessi are wide and flatish with the high point close to the middle.

[jeterbone]

I work at Houghton Horns, which happened to acquire a handful of Laskey-Alessi Tenor mouthpieces. The rims remind me of a New York Greg Black or NY Griego. Very wide rim.

The one thing that I personally didn't enjoy was the .293 throats for the symphony line.

The 55 Symphony is the only mouthpiece in Alessi's line that has a .282. After that, the rest of the symphony mouthpieces at .293 throat. Kind of reminds me of the older Greg Black Alessi's!

I only know this information because Laskey had sent us descriptions of each mouthpiece.

I found the solo mouthpieces to be very colorful and VERY responsive. Lots of core to the sound. The symphony's were great! I just prefer tighter throats. That's just my two cents!

[harrisonreed]

Is Laskey actually serious about producing these mouthpieces lol. There is no info, their site is bare bones, and their social media is pretty quiet.

Are they still tweaking the designs or are they just not actually tooled up yet?

[Kdanielsen]

Im really excited about the idea of a dedicated bass trumpet mouthpiece. That’d be pretty cool. Especially if it had a 1.05” rim.

[BrianJohnston]

Is Laskey actually serious about producing these mouthpieces lol.

They're serious. Scott Laskey's wife & son carefully passed on the business. I'm certain they're waiting until all of the details are in order.

[Bach5G]

Eastman purchased the Laskey business and its subsidiary, Backun clarinets, located in Burnaby BC, is manufacturing the mpcs. It sounds like the Alessi mpcs are already out and the standard models are almost ready to go.

[harrisonreed]

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[Bach5G]

Yup. Coming soon. I listened to a guy try out an Alessi model a couple of weeks ago.

Fair to say it has taken longer than expected.

[Druidman]

Is Laskey actually serious about producing these mouthpieces lol. There is no info, their site is bare bones, and their social media is pretty quiet.

Yeah, there's nothing on the website about even the Alessi tenor series. I can understand if they want to wait until it's all ready to update the site, but they need to say that somewhere.

[Druidman]

Managed to play the 67 series at the Trombone Shop in MN. I had my Griego Alessi 4D (not quite 1-1 rim diameter), but I thought that the Laskey sounded a bit broader and slotted better. I did prefer the 67 solo over the 67 symphony model.

It also looks like they made a social media post about the Alessi series giving just the rim measurements. Not sure why they didn't do that a month ago after giving a date for the launch...

[harrisonreed]

I wonder how good that Laskey must be for an artist to go from a company that was selling a bazillion signature mouthpieces to a company that seems to be unable to make more than a handful, and only sells them at secret club meetings.

The Griego pieces are good too.

This could be the real marketing ploy. Now I'm gonna have to try one!

[tbonesullivan]

I know that the "new" Laskey Tuba mouthpieces are out in the wild, but the jury is out on whether they are "as good" as the originals. This is not surprising knowing that there was variation in the designs over the years. I also am pretty sure that Scott Laskey did not use a 2 or 3 axis CNC lathe like they have making the new Laskey mouthpieces.

[Druidman]

I'm just grumpy that Laskey is so tight lipped about it. I'd be curious how they compare to the original, but I've only played Scott's bass pieces.

[harrisonreed]

So I just saw 55s and 60s of both depths from the Alessi series at Yamano Wind Crew in Shin Okubo, Tokyo. Took a good look. First off, the rim looked thinner than the Griego version, but my eyes might have been playing tricks. The cup is visibly machined, with striations. It seemed deeper than the 1C on the symphony version but it's been a long time. Throat looked like it was around that .284-.293 range that people mentioned above. The bore was a smooth, single taper line out of the throat. Pretty thick wall around the tip, suggesting a relatively tight back bore. It also seemed to be longer than the Griego version.

That's it. Didn't try it out. Get yours today, available in Tokyo

[Danitrb]

I find this on web.

[hveene]

I worked as a professional trombonist for years, but the last decades only for fun. I used to switch between the Bach 5G and DE LT-G back in the day. Bach is too dark for my taste. DE makes me think the three-part design loses some sound in the upper partials. Maybe just my perception, the DE is very comfortable to play. But anyway, since I mostly play in British style Brassband these days, Bach 5G and DE LT-G are both too big. So I was looking for a slightly smaller alternative. I don't like the DE LT-F and the Bach 5GS. So now I ordered a Laskey 55 Solo. It has the same inner rimsize, feels very comfortable, more like a DE than a Bach mouthpiece, not as sharp. The sound is just a smidge smaller than the Bach 5G, but it provides an easier high register. The sound is IMHO much better than the Bach 5G and even better than the DE mouthpiece I used for a long time. So for now I think I will stick with the Laskey 55 SOLO. It was surprisingly pleasant to play right from the first notes. Although just maybe the 62 would give a bit more room for my lips. Just my two bits.

[Kdanielsen]

So I just saw 55s and 60s of both depths from the Alessi series at Yamano Wind Crew in Shin Okubo, Tokyo. Took a good look. First off, the rim looked thinner than the Griego version, but my eyes might have been playing tricks. The cup is visibly machined, with striations. It seemed deeper than the 1C on the symphony version but it's been a long time. Throat looked like it was around that .284-.293 range that people mentioned above. The bore was a smooth, single taper line out of the throat. Pretty thick wall around the tip, suggesting a relatively tight back bore. It also seemed to be longer than the Griego version.

That's it. Didn't try it out. Get yours today, available in Tokyo

The rim contour is a bit different from the equivalent Griego.

[bassbone1993]

Looks like the trombone mouthpieces are available on their website now. Just not bass pieces

[ScottZigler]

I got excited there for a minute ... then I read "Just not bass pieces"

[tbonesullivan]

Looks like the trombone mouthpieces are available on their website now. Just not bass pieces

I wonder how many they are planning to offer. When I bought my 85MD, the only other models available were the 90D, 93D, and 95D. I think there also used to be an 82MD and some others.

[SwissTbone]

I got excited there for a minute ... then I read "Just not bass pieces"

Bass pieces are available on Swisstbone since yesterday

[bassbone1993]

I'd love to see an 82MD, but I believe they were pretty rare

[ZacharyThornton]

I have never seen a 82MD. There is a Markey 82 if Laskey doesn’t made that model.

[tbonesullivan]

I have never seen a 82MD. There is a Markey 82 if Laskey doesn’t made that model.

hmm, maybe I imagined it. I do know there was an 85D.

[ZacharyThornton]

Really? One offs maybe?

[tbonesullivan]

Really? One offs maybe?

Someone found an old version of the Laskey website, and got these models off it:

Model Rim Cup Depth Rim Width Throat

42C 24.20 MS Standard Laskey rim 5.94
46C 24.60 MS Standard Laskey rim 5.94
50C 25.00 MS Standard Laskey rim 5.94
54M 25.40 MS Standard Laskey rim 6.73
5G 25.50 MD Standard Laskey rim 7.14
57MD 25.70 MD Standard Laskey rim 7.14
57D 25.70 D Standard Laskey rim 7.14
57E 25.70 D Standard Laskey rim 7.14
59MD 25.90 MD Standard Laskey rim 7.14
59D 25.90 D Standard Laskey rim 7.14
62D 26.20 D Standard Laskey rim 7.14
63MD 26.30 MD Standard Laskey rim 7.14
85MD 28.50 MD Standard Laskey rim 7.49
85D 28.50 D Standard Laskey rim 7.49
90D 29.00 D Standard Laskey rim 7.49
93D 29.30 D Standard Laskey rim 7.93
95D 29.50 D Standard Laskey rim 7.93

[ZacharyThornton]

Very cool! Never seen one’